# To the Glory of God the Son: Debunking a Common Arian Canard – Part 2

- Link: https://lordjesuschristreigns.blog/2025/08/02/to-the-glory-of-god-the-son-debunking-a-common-arian-canard-part-2/
- Published: 2025-08-02T13:25:02-07:00
- Author: LordJesusChristReigns

I **[resume my refutation](https://lordjesuschristreigns.blog/2025/08/02/to-the-glory-of-god-the-son-debunking-a-common-arian-canard-part-1/)**
of Greg Stafford and his fellow Arian heretics.

As I had noted previously, the glorification of the Father and the Son is reciprocal
in that it isn’t merely the Son who glorifies God. Instead, the Father himself is
committed to glorifying the Son in like manner:

“‘But I am not seeking glory for myself; there is One who is seeking and judging.’…
Jesus answered: ‘If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. **It is my Father who
glorifies me, the one who you say is your God.’”** **John 8:50, 54**

“When, therefore, he had gone out, Jesus said: ‘Now the Son of man is glorified,
and God is glorified in connection with him. **God himself will glorify him, and
he will glorify him immediately.’”** **John 13:31-32**

**“The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has
glorified his Servant, Jesus,** whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate,
even though he had decided to release him.” **Acts 3:13**

The Spirit is also involved in glorifying the Son:

“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. 
However, when that one comes, **the spirit of the truth,** he will guide you into
all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he
will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come. **That one will glorify
me**, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you. All 
the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what
is mine and declares it to you.” **John 16:12-15 **

In fact, not only is the Father committed to honoring and glorifying his beloved
Son,

“No, it was not by following artfully contrived false stories that we made known
to you the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but rather, we were eyewitnesses
of his magnificence. **For he received from God the Father HONOR AND GLORY** when
words such as these were conveyed to him by the magnificent glory: **‘This is my
Son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.’ Yes, these words we heard coming 
from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain.” 2 Peter 1:16-18**

He also demands that every creature honor the Son in the exact same way that they
honor God:

“For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the
Son, **so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does
not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.” John 5:22-23**

This explains why John had a vision in which he saw the Son receiving the exact 
same worship that God himself receives from all of creation: 

“When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down 
before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense.(
The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) And they sing a new song, saying:‘
You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and
with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue* and people
and nation, and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are
to rule as kings over the earth.’ 

And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures
and the elders, and the number of them was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands,
and they were saying with a loud voice: ‘The Lamb who was slaughtered is worthy 
to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength AND HONOR AND GLORY and 
blessing.’ 

And I heard EVERY CREATURE in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on
the sea, AND ALL THE THINGS IN THEM, saying: ‘To the One sitting on the throne and
to the Lamb be the blessing and THE HONOR and THE GLORY and the might forever and
ever.’ The four living creatures were saying: ‘Amen!’ and the elders fell down and
worshipped.” **Revelation 5:8-14**

Now, this places Arian heretics such as Gregory Stafford in a dilemma. The fact 
that Jesus is distinguished from every created being in existence proves that he
is no mere creature. Rather, the Son is exactly like God in that he is separate 
from the entire creation, and is therefore eternal by nature, having no beginning
to his life or existence. 

This helps us further appreciate why doxologies, or ascriptions of praise and glory,
are offered to both the Father and the Son,

“They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service
to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.” **Romans
1:25**

“Now to our God and Father be the glory forever and ever. Amen.” **Philippians 4:
20**

“No, but go on growing in the undeserved kindness and knowledge of our Lord and 
Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.”**
2 Peter 3:18**

“and from Jesus Christ, ‘the Faithful Witness,’ ‘the firstborn from the dead,’ and‘
the Ruler of the kings of the earth.’ To him who loves us and who set us free from
our sins by means of his own blood—and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his
God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.” **Revelation
1:5-6**

Since the Son is uncreated by nature, being essentially one with the Father, and
therefore worthy of the exact same worship.

The God-breathed Scriptures further proclaim that God is glorified in union with
his Son:

“Now a man named Lazʹa·rus was sick; he was from Bethʹa·ny, the village of Mary 
and her sister Martha. This was the Mary who poured perfumed oil on the Lord and
wiped his feet dry with her hair; it was her brother Lazʹa·rus who was sick. So 
his sisters sent a message to him, saying: ‘Lord, see! the one you have affection
for is sick.’ But when Jesus heard it, he said: ‘This sickness is not meant to end
in death, **but is for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified
through it.**’… Jesus said to her: **‘Did I not tell you that if you would believe
you would see the glory of God?’”** **John 11:1-4, 40**

“Most truly I say to you, whoever exercises faith in me will also do the works that
I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the 
Father. Also, whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, **so that the Father 
may be glorified in connection with the Son.** If you ask anything in my name, I
will do it.” **John 14:12-14**

“Whatever it is that you do in word or in deed, **do everything in the name of the
Lord Jesus, thanking God the Father through him.**” **Colossians 3:17**

“If anyone speaks, let him do so as speaking pronouncements from God; if anyone 
ministers, let him do so as depending on the strength that God supplies; **so that
in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ. The glory and the might
are his forever and ever. Amen.”** **1 Peter 4:11**

This shows that God will never allow himself to be glorified apart from Christ since
he has bound his glorification with the glorification of his Beloved. 

In other words, a person who seeks to honor God without acknowledging, confessing,
honoring, and loving the Son will not be accepted since to reject the Son is to 
reject the Father, to hate the Son is to hate the Father etc., since it is the Son
who mediates God’s presence and unites us to the Father:

“No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in
closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.” **John 1:18 (NIV)**

“‘All those whom the Father gives me will come to me, and I will never drive away
the one who comes to me; for I have come down from heaven to do, not my own will,
but the will of him who sent me. This is the will of him who sent me, that I should
lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them
on the last day. **For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes
the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect
him on the last day.’** Then the Jews began to murmur about him because he had said:“
I am the bread that came down from heaven.’ And they began saying: “Is this not 
Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, “
I have come down from heaven”?’ In response Jesus said to them: ‘Stop murmuring 
among yourselves. **No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws 
him**, and I will resurrect him on the last day. It is written in the Prophets: “
They will all be taught by Jehovah.” **Everyone who has listened to the Father and
has learned comes to me**. Not that any man has seen the Father, except the one 
who is from God; this one has seen the Father. Most truly I say to you, whoever 
believes has everlasting life.’” **John 6:37-44**

“However, Jesus called out and said: **‘Whoever puts faith in me puts faith not 
only in me but also in him who sent me; and whoever sees me sees also the One who
sent me.’” John 12:44-45**

“Jesus said to him: ‘I am the way and the truth and the life. **No one comes to 
the Father except through me.’”** **John 14:6**

“Remain in union with me, and I will remain in union with you. Just as the branch
cannot bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you unless
you remain in union with me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains
in union with me and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; for apart from
me you can do nothing at all. If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is 
thrown out like a branch and dries up. And men gather those branches and throw them
into the fire, and they are burned. If you remain in union with me and my sayings
remain in you, ask whatever you wish and it will take place for you. **My Father
IS GLORIFIED IN THIS, that you keep bearing much fruit AND PROVE YOURSELVES MY DISCIPLES…
Whoever hates me also hates my Father.” John 15:1-8, 23**

“Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? **This is the 
antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son
does not have the Father either. But whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father
also.”** **1 John 2:22-23**  

“If we accept the witness of men, the witness of God is greater. **Because this 
is the witness God gives, the witness that he has given about his Son**. The person
putting his faith in the Son of God has the witness within himself. The person not
having faith in God has made him a liar, because he has not put his faith in the
witness given by God concerning his Son. **And this is the witness, that God gave
us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has this
life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life.”** **1 John
5:9-12**

This simply confirms what I stated in the first part of my discussion, namely, it
is simply not true that the Father does nothing to and for the glory of another._**
Rather, the Father does all things to and for the glory of his Son to the extent
that he even refuses to be glorified apart from his Beloved.**_ The Father has made
it that he can only be glorified in union with and in reference to the Son.

I am still not through dismantling Greg Stafford’s blasphemous assault against the
risen Lord of glory since I have more for him and his fellow Arian heretics in the
[**next part**](https://lordjesuschristreigns.blog/2025/08/02/to-the-glory-of-god-the-son-debunking-a-common-arian-canard-part-3/)
of my rebuttal.

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